New Diablo 3 Media – The Fallen
May 24, 2009 at 6:11 pm by srfto
New Diablo 3 media released today brings about the return of the Fallen, the lowly red devils from previous Diablo titles. Three new screen shots and a video showing the red devil like “fallen” from the first two Diablo games.
These small cowardly demonic imps are common in the world and come in several varieties varieties. Imps, Shamans, Lunatics and Overseers. The Lunatics are the bloated oversized fallen and Overseers can usually been seen driving their smaller brethren into battle with leaping and frenzied growling. Sometimes they’ll use slobbering hounds as guard creatures.
I'm disappointed that the character art has creatures with the exact same elf ears. If they're the "fallen ones" where did they fall from to not have human ears? If your justification is "that's the 'evil' morphology!" Then why does the freaking catpigdog "hound" thing have the same exact ears? It's boring and confused. There's no reason to have a patchy mowhawk either. It's like the concept artist didn't know what he was drawing or the art director said, "everything looks cooler with stripes, mowhawks and i'll buy you a cookie if you can add bondage." These characters aren't grotesque as much as they are comical. There's nothing disturbed or scary here. Moar hell plez.
@ william Mauritzen: you need to get laid.
Yep, i do. So what's your point? Not getting laid has somehow changed my opinion? Sorry, but patchy fauxhawk pigdogcat just isn't impressive. If you're willing to love it, that's great. I'm just not impressed. I think they can do better. So unless you're willing to bring a real argument to the table…try to be more creative with your insults. Top five insults of the uncreative people who bore me:
5. Get laid
4. Get a job
3. I did your mom
2. You're gay
1. stfu
Don't bother growing the pubes, that's not what counts. Get a wit. Get a real discussion point. If you feel that pigcatdog is creative somehow, please express it.
I think my favorite unintentionally-hilarious insult is, "Your an idiot."
Classic.
Your? Maybe you are the idiot. Or at least a moran!
This is dripping with irony.
Ah wait crap.
Pretty damn sure he said "Your" on purpose.
your a douche bag,.. i wish i knew you so i could punch you and your mom in the eye
you are
you're
vs.
your
fight!
your list is good but you forgot natzi
will, i wont throw childish insults at you and tell you your 'ghey' or something equally juvinille. i will however say this…you really need to get out more.
please, seriously….don't buy the game. Don't even demo it. because it obviously isn't going to please such a seasoned and epicly 1337 diablo player as yourself. No really, all the whiners like yourself that have bitched and moaned ever since this game was announced simply need not bothering with D3 because it 'looks too much like wow' WE GET IT!! get over yourself, stop whining…don't waste your money. but for god's sake just shut the hell up your giving me a headache.
It's too bad people have this "all or nothing" concept when it comes to disagreement. I expressed disappointment in one tiny aspect of the title and suddenly you say, "Don't even demo the game." That's just ridiculous.
It gets even more silly when people say, "If you can't do better, stfu!" By that same reasoning, if you can't be the best president, don't try to get elected! If you can't be the best doctor, don't treat people. I have news for you, somewhere in the world is the worst doctor…and someone has an appointment with them tomorrow! ZOMG!
Fortunately I don't base my actions on your opinion. I'll decide to buy the game if and when I feel like it…and guess what…I may still be disappointed in the periodically weak artwork. Games are more than just the art.
I'm glad I'm giving you a headache as your poor spelling and lack of a positive counter discussion are giving me one. Now we're just a little more alike than when the conversation started.
Just give Blizzard your money and play it. I know you will. You know you will. They know you will. The pseudo cool guy routine doesn't really work well on the internet. You'll just keep complaining and shooting peoples comments down, then most long paragraphs of your own till DIII gets released about how D2 was better and this sucks and the artwork and blah!
You clearly know jack about the world Diablo takes place in. You clearly know jack about creating concept art. You also just lost the game.
You started out with some truth and then devolved into idiocy. I'm not trying to be "cool." I think you are projecting your own insecurity. I haven't "shot down" anyones arguments. There haven't been any. I actually just want to talk about strengths and weaknesses in the art. That's called critique. Healthy critique is what you learn in art school.
There is no winning or losing the game here.
Critique for who? Very unlikely the concept artist is reading these comments.
And you just revealed you're in art school, probably took one class on character design and now you're a pretentious retard. No point in bickering children.
Critiquing isn't just for changing the artists work. It's so that people can learn to put their opinion into words. It increases your vocabulary for design and art. People talk about wars even when they can't do anything about it. People talk about history when it's all in the past.
It's clear that you haven't had any art training at all as discussions about the Mona Lisa are still heard even though that work is quite unlikely to be revised.
Once again, another person has chimed in without an opinion on the work being discussed. Imagine someone talking about the weather on a park bench "Those clouds look like ducks." and then a bunch of tourettes syndrome children come by shouting profanity. Now, I challenge you to find one quality about the work that you like so much that you can put it into words. "It's cool" is not a quality. Here, an example would be; "The color palette is rich."
did he died?
@ William Mauritzen: get a job.
I think I'm entitled to my opinion. It's pretty clear who the coolaid drinking fanbois are here.
William Mauritzen is right… these look like shitty WoW enemies, not anything like Diablo. For shame.
I think the lunatic character is going someplace. I like the idea of a tortured guy who is going to suicide on you. It clearly communicated intent and gameplay.
I also feel that the silhouettes hold up at a distance even if the facial features aren't making me hot. So, they're winning the battle at a distance. I guess I was hoping D2 would really take it out on a limb and get either really grotesque or seriously disturbed. I'm totally looking forward to seeing what happens to the butcher.
I agree, their designers do need to get their heads out of WoW. Clearly the creative department for Diablo III development needs some "fresh blood" and new creative ideas because the whole pig, cat, dog, goat thing has been done over and over. What about the ghostly demon that only x item(s) or spell can kill?
It might not be the bast that they have done, but it's still very, very impressive.
And to all those out there who are being so critical, I'd like to see you do anything half as good as the work that the people at blizzard do, If you can't stand up and do something better, quit your bitching.
These red elf like creatures are way too cute to have place in Diablo. Design is boring, familiar and uncreative. It's seems like too much has been taken from wow, the new exploding zerglings from starcraft, slapped with some unexplained bondage in the style of Brom.
Don't like.
This is dripping with irony..
I agree, their designers do need to get their heads out of WoW. Clearly the creative department for Diablo III development needs some “fresh blood” and new creative ideas because the whole pig, cat, dog, goat thing has been done over and over. What about the ghostly demon that only x item(s) or spell can kill??
I'm sure that if this is going to be like the other diablo games, these are only a few of the Act 1 creatures… Do you honestly expect Blizzard to release their best artwork this far before release? They didn't include the in-game of Baal… And FYI Diablo has never been some immensely in depth game, I'm sure that Blizz is still trying to keep it frame-rate friendly.
Looking forward to the new game personally. Like Donno said, if you can do better then do it. Quit whining and if you have such a problem with it then create something better and revolutionize the gaming industry, can't be that hard can it?
Maybe I will do just that… hell, I'll revolutionize the gaming industry much better than Blizz, than I'll return here and post a comment "THERE!! I TOLD YOU".
Just hop to Deviantart and you can see a few creative and original imp/devil/pigcatdog artwork.
Blizzard is a lot like the Amish. They are only adopting the technology that serves them. Thusly normal mapping and advanced shader tech has not been taken up by all of their teams. In the interview process they ask whether you hand paint or procedurally generate your textures. They are looking for painters, not tech artists. I think that all of these models would benefit from some better shader treatment, but then they wouldn't have a product that is nearly universally available across PC's. I think of them as exactly the opposite of Crytek. I just happen to be a bigger fan of Crytek than Blizz.
Your all missing the point. Imps are supposed to be ridiculous, they are the fodder. They also need to make really funny sounds when they die. Preferably a few different ones. Nothing was funnier than watching an imp die to a sorc staff. WACK aaaaah. My wife sat there laughing for like 2 minutes before resuming play.
In closing, IMPs are fodder. They are not scary.
I was just looking at the difference between the concept work and the finished work. The Shaman varies pretty wildly from the concept. The biggest thing to note is the musculature and horns. The concept has this very frail, heroin chic character supporting twenty pound horns. The execution has more muscle and the horns look like eight pound horns that were tacked on. I don't feel either of the two work for me. If you're going to have a frail Monty Burns character, the horns need to be something he can actually support, or at least develop the muscles that do that work. That would help drive the silhouette as well.
When it comes to horns, I've always felt like there's a big pecking order in hell. The bigger the horns, the meaner the creature. Imps, in their comical nature, should imho, have comically tiny horns. I enjoy when horns look natural, and flow from the form, like a Ram. Some horns are made for bashing, others for stabbing.
I just couldn't agree more. D3 is so cartoonish. I was expecting more fiendishly horrifying graphics. Not some bunch of funny looking wimps. And hell, i wish they bring back that hawt n**ger sorceress. The current wizard looks too frail.
When gaming Ex. Diablo for Days'N'Days / Yrs'N'Yrs, you loose some of your "lifetime", without really getting anything to show for it (nothing wrong in that, i guess). But this will make some people (in these job/work-identity-based times), feel that they need to defend, to themselves and others, the "fact" that they "wasted" some of their life Ûbernerding Diablo. To all of those : Life is ment for ….. ?
Enjoy the pain you get from your mouse .. It's a gift …
Btw : What's the latest on the monthly payment-fee for Dia3 ?
I can't wait for this game to come out, recently ive been relapsing into playing a trial account of WoW… I need this thing to hit so that I dont have to surrender my soul to the MMO mentality that owns my soul!
guys, its the freakin' fallen, the lowest of the low, nothings, nobodies the murlocs of diablo…. who cares how they look just kill them
man blizzard def has alot on its plate i don't get how they managed it where all my old favorite games are from them
Well i cant wait for the god damn game come out since the only two games i play is CS:S/Diablo