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	<title>Comments on: Valve Defends Left 4 Dead 2 Release Among 20,000 Member Boycott</title>
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		<title>By: Xaero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xaero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got loads of fun out of my Oblivion horse armour....
Okay, that&#039;s a lie, I never even bought the damn thing, I can see where you&#039;re going and I agree while everyone boycotting L4D2 is either a whiny bitch or in fear that it&#039;s just another cash in all these people have to look at things like The Orange Box and Half Life 2 and Half Life itself for god sake and realise Valve have a certain bar if you will that they set for most of the gaming world because there games are so thought out, so detailed and often offer a lot more gameplay then your average EA studio knocked it out in 2 months job.

Valve games are a consistent high quality, always have been and hopefully always will be so you can see if you thought the Orange box was worth it you will probably feel Left 4 Dead 2 is worth it. Also honestly a boycott group of 2000 isn&#039;t impressive, that just means that there&#039;s a load of people that thought &quot;that&#039;s a bit annoying&quot; but the general population is a bunch of people who got random spam invites and accepted, people eat up the same shit football (soccer I suppose if you&#039;re American) games every year so why the fuck do you complain when there&#039;s a genuine addition to the game such as advanced new AI. Besides COD6 has got well over 100,000, L4D2 Boycott is minuscule in comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got loads of fun out of my Oblivion horse armour&#8230;.<br />
Okay, that&#8217;s a lie, I never even bought the damn thing, I can see where you&#8217;re going and I agree while everyone boycotting L4D2 is either a whiny bitch or in fear that it&#8217;s just another cash in all these people have to look at things like The Orange Box and Half Life 2 and Half Life itself for god sake and realise Valve have a certain bar if you will that they set for most of the gaming world because there games are so thought out, so detailed and often offer a lot more gameplay then your average EA studio knocked it out in 2 months job.</p>
<p>Valve games are a consistent high quality, always have been and hopefully always will be so you can see if you thought the Orange box was worth it you will probably feel Left 4 Dead 2 is worth it. Also honestly a boycott group of 2000 isn&#8217;t impressive, that just means that there&#8217;s a load of people that thought &#8220;that&#8217;s a bit annoying&#8221; but the general population is a bunch of people who got random spam invites and accepted, people eat up the same shit football (soccer I suppose if you&#8217;re American) games every year so why the fuck do you complain when there&#8217;s a genuine addition to the game such as advanced new AI. Besides COD6 has got well over 100,000, L4D2 Boycott is minuscule in comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Xaero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xaero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Send Value a message courtesy of the Halo minute, I can take this plenty seriously.

A boycott is a stupid move, Valve have, since announcement, added new content to Left 4 Dead in the form of a new campaign, given it&#039;s only 2 levels but they&#039;re bloody long levels and they&#039;re completely free to PC gamers (a small £5 on XBL because Microsoft love money) you have to remember if Valve were to release all the Left 4 Dead 2 content as an expansion it would be a more difficult dilemma as how to deliver this content to the console players that are a large share of there current market.

I am a gamer of both PC and console and have been since 1997 and things like this happen a lot, but people get pissed over stupid things, if you want to boycott someone boycott IW for the fact that Modern Warfare 2 on PC is going to be more cut down then a naked teenager from Friday the 13th or Blizzard for the fact that Starcraft 2 if it&#039;s finally released will be released in 3 wallet biting £30 chunks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Send Value a message courtesy of the Halo minute, I can take this plenty seriously.</p>
<p>A boycott is a stupid move, Valve have, since announcement, added new content to Left 4 Dead in the form of a new campaign, given it&#8217;s only 2 levels but they&#8217;re bloody long levels and they&#8217;re completely free to PC gamers (a small £5 on XBL because Microsoft love money) you have to remember if Valve were to release all the Left 4 Dead 2 content as an expansion it would be a more difficult dilemma as how to deliver this content to the console players that are a large share of there current market.</p>
<p>I am a gamer of both PC and console and have been since 1997 and things like this happen a lot, but people get pissed over stupid things, if you want to boycott someone boycott IW for the fact that Modern Warfare 2 on PC is going to be more cut down then a naked teenager from Friday the 13th or Blizzard for the fact that Starcraft 2 if it&#8217;s finally released will be released in 3 wallet biting £30 chunks.</p>
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		<title>By: Tre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably. I just with they would stop babbling about it being bad and just not buy it. I&#039;m excited about it. I&#039;m going to play both of them. Can&#039;t wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably. I just with they would stop babbling about it being bad and just not buy it. I&#8217;m excited about it. I&#8217;m going to play both of them. Can&#8217;t wait.</p>
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		<title>By: Tre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they never promised anything. they said MAYBE. There&#039;s a difference. And if you don&#039;t want left 4 dead 2 then don&#039;t freaking buy it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they never promised anything. they said MAYBE. There&#8217;s a difference. And if you don&#8217;t want left 4 dead 2 then don&#8217;t freaking buy it!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are you referring to the 3000$ computer from alienware or the monthly 15$ spent on MMO&#039;s. Why don&#039;t you consider thinking before uttering nonsense. PC gamers spend more 10x the money just upgrading there PC than actually buying games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are you referring to the 3000$ computer from alienware or the monthly 15$ spent on MMO&#8217;s. Why don&#8217;t you consider thinking before uttering nonsense. PC gamers spend more 10x the money just upgrading there PC than actually buying games.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Little</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuck eurotrash</description>
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		<title>By: Garage Battle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garage Battle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is my suggestion, please read and listen Valve. 

Valve is highly regarded as a provider of long supported products. The consumers feel the release of a new l4d product is too soon, as for many, the current l4d product feels to small/short to justify a new standalone product. 

In order to appease all I would recommend this path of releas. For current l4d, lower the price to $20 around l4d2 release. Offer l4d2 at $30 to current l4d owners. Offer l4d2 to first time buyers for $45, which includes l4d2 &amp; l4d.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my suggestion, please read and listen Valve. </p>
<p>Valve is highly regarded as a provider of long supported products. The consumers feel the release of a new l4d product is too soon, as for many, the current l4d product feels to small/short to justify a new standalone product. </p>
<p>In order to appease all I would recommend this path of releas. For current l4d, lower the price to $20 around l4d2 release. Offer l4d2 at $30 to current l4d owners. Offer l4d2 to first time buyers for $45, which includes l4d2 &amp; l4d.</p>
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		<title>By: Navagon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Navagon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Do you guys remember 10 years ago when there was no such thing as DLC?&quot;

Yeah, back then they had these things called expansion packs instead. Same thing, only it came in a box and typically offered more content to justify the price. Remember those? 

The reason that people are pissed about this is that L4D2 is the promised - and I do stress promised - DLC for L4D. No new engine or anything. They just went a bit overboard with the content and decided to brand it as another full price title instead. This not only breaks Valve&#039;s promise to release DLC for Left 4 Dead but also makes the title somewhat ironic seeing how that&#039;s what has become of the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do you guys remember 10 years ago when there was no such thing as DLC?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, back then they had these things called expansion packs instead. Same thing, only it came in a box and typically offered more content to justify the price. Remember those? </p>
<p>The reason that people are pissed about this is that L4D2 is the promised &#8211; and I do stress promised &#8211; DLC for L4D. No new engine or anything. They just went a bit overboard with the content and decided to brand it as another full price title instead. This not only breaks Valve&#8217;s promise to release DLC for Left 4 Dead but also makes the title somewhat ironic seeing how that&#8217;s what has become of the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Smacky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smacky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does this sort of thing always devolve into people attacking each others point of view. Have the strength and basic dignity to allow other opinions to exist. Some people are ok with paying $50 for the new game, and some people are ticked off about some miscommunication by Valve and perceive L4D2 to be a money grab. Even if you want to buy the game you can see the point of view of those who are pissed off. And if you&#039;re ticked off you can understand why some people shrug and say I want to buy it.
 There is never going to be a borg mind on the subject and you cant force people and verbally assault them into submission so stop it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does this sort of thing always devolve into people attacking each others point of view. Have the strength and basic dignity to allow other opinions to exist. Some people are ok with paying $50 for the new game, and some people are ticked off about some miscommunication by Valve and perceive L4D2 to be a money grab. Even if you want to buy the game you can see the point of view of those who are pissed off. And if you&#8217;re ticked off you can understand why some people shrug and say I want to buy it.<br />
 There is never going to be a borg mind on the subject and you cant force people and verbally assault them into submission so stop it!</p>
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